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Old 22-Sep-2004, 13:42
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Flash listing on google (Help Blury)


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I have developed an whole e-commerce site in flash using pure asp pages to communicate between my database and flash. However I have found alot of negative comments when researching on how to get Flash listed on google. Many people have said flash is rubbish for developing sites that require an high listing on google, but I believe there surley must be a way of having the googlebots read the flash content. has anyone any ideas on how i can achieve this?
also how would google react on using a redirect method from html pages to the main flash site?
Please can somebidy help me and provide me with some solutions as i am stuck and need expert advice.

many thanks in advance,
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Old 22-Sep-2004, 21:24
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Hi,
I have developed an whole e-commerce site in flash using pure asp pages to communicate between my database and flash. However I have found alot of negative comments when researching on how to get Flash listed on google. Many people have said flash is rubbish for developing sites that require an high listing on google, but I believe there surley must be a way of having the googlebots read the flash content. has anyone any ideas on how i can achieve this?
Why would you believe that all your research is wrong? Surely if noone has said bots can read Flash, and everyone says they can't, they can't.

You see, Flash is not text, it is binary. There is no way to "decompose" the binary into ASCII text, so bots can't read the information. Bots can only read text files.

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also how would google react on using a redirect method from html pages to the main flash site?
Much better. At least the file that does the redirection can contain the information the bots will use.
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Old 23-Sep-2004, 02:58
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Actually google can read flash files, however most people are right, pure flash websites are rubbish for search engine rankings, google has problems following links, finding includes and rating all the content.

if you want to see what google sees use this
flash-seo.com

flash files arnt given page rank though so your in trouble there.
you might have to use noframe tags for the page to insert content.
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As long as you include some invisible keywords and description at the top of your page, it would be indexed horribly.
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Darksat, can you show proof that google can read swf files?

You have found something that can gather text from the swf file, but nothing relating to google.
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I do not think you can get a high ranking from google with flash. Search engine robots are content hungry and when I say content, I mean textual content. Some robots have the ability to read text in images (gif/jpg) but surely not flash content.

After all there are probably very few websites (if any) that use flash and have high rankings. Google is my search tool for years now, and I haven't managed to see a website using flash in the top 20 results of any query.

Flash can make websites look cool but you need to sacrifise this in terms of SEO. If you can get links from >PR 8 sites, then maybe you have a case here but I wouldn't bet on it. Why don't you use HTML tables and HTML text but also some Flash elements on each page? Does it have to be all Flash?
 
 

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